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Postby up148 » Tue May 08, 2018 8:46 am
Back in 2015, someone posted that Henry Bultman had passed away on the OGR forum and there were a few nice responses, then the thread went to sleep.
Then, 10 hours ago, a nephew posted a response, stating he had been trying to find Henry on the internet to tell him a sister passed away and ran into the OGR post from 2015. Brad A. made a nice comment about Henry's models 8 hours ago and then this was posted.
No new replies are permitted.
What is that all about? I'm trying to figure out just what harm allowing the thread to go back to sleep normally, as they always do, would cause. I wanted to post something nice too. What the h*ll is wrong with those guys at OGR, that they would lock this thread. This is an all time low for them IMHO!!!!!!
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Postby Jay Criswell » Tue May 08, 2018 9:32 am
Unless there's an issue, unclear to me, this makes no sense.
Their heavy handed behavior, arbitrary censorship, protection of cronies, etc. is one of the reasons I don't advertise or become a sponsor. Their outrageous rates are a factor also.
I've been called out for mentioning Right-O'-Way, and I kind of understand the rationale, but the way they handle most situations is intolerable for me. I don't plan on posting much in the future. Yeah, I know, a little late on the uptake and all that. The truth is, posts on their forum get a lot of views. Having said that, I seriously doubt any sales resulted from such exposure.
Back to the original post, Henry deserved better. He brought a lot to our hobby. RIP Henry.
Jay
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Postby Rufus T. Firefly » Tue May 08, 2018 9:42 am
Maybe they can't get Henry to advertise and so locked the thread? Their expectations do tend to be AU's off from realistic.
Yet the Smokey Mountain thread, a non-advertiser, continues on
Conservatism: The intense fear that somewhere, somehow, someone you think is inferior is being treated as your equal.
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Postby cole7015 » Tue May 08, 2018 10:35 am
I am with you Jay on all you said.I have been there done that and got called out. they do not like it when you shoot
from the hip on the policies. They finally banned me for life so they said.
Bill Basden
Jay Criswell wrote:Unless there's an issue, unclear to me, this makes no sense.
Their heavy handed behavior, arbitrary censorship, protection of cronies, etc. is one of the reasons I don't advertise or become a sponsor. Their outrageous rates are a factor also.
I've been called out for mentioning Right-O'-Way, and I kind of understand the rationale, but the way they handle most situations is intolerable for me. I don't plan on posting much in the future. Yeah, I know, a little late on the uptake and all that. The truth is, posts on their forum get a lot of views. Having said that, I seriously doubt any sales resulted from such exposure.
Back to the original post, Henry deserved better. He brought a lot to our hobby. RIP Henry.
Jay
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Postby E7 » Tue May 08, 2018 11:40 am
The Bultmann thread as I viewed it:
Henry's great niece posted.
Brad Andonian made a nice comment.
Then there was a RUDE (in my opinion) comment posted by a forum member regarding Henry's estrangement from/lack of communication with his family.
When I checked the thread a bit later that comment had been removed.
After seeing this thread here on MTJ I returned to view the one on OGR, and it was indeed locked as is noted here. I am not sure if any other posts were made after the negative comment was removed. Did the original negative poster return and post more???? No way of knowing as a fair amount of time had lapsed.
It's hard to interpret things when you don't have all the information/correct timeline, or to know someone's motivation without having all the facts, but I'm giving the moderator's a pass, as I think they were trying to do the right thing.
Rich
PS: I communicated a bit with Henry over the years, and he once commented that he had taken care of his Father until he passed. He never spoke regarding the rest of his family, either good or bad.
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Postby Jay Criswell » Tue May 08, 2018 12:21 pm
I don't agree completely.
If someone is posting inappropriately why not moderate them. Closing down the whole thread was a typical overreaction, seen way too frequently.
Punish the many to protect the few?
Jay
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Postby bob turner » Tue May 08, 2018 12:25 pm
This one might be a gray area, but the NK is well deserved. Heavy-handed censorship is the hallmark of autocrats.
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Postby E7 » Tue May 08, 2018 2:15 pm
I'm a freeloader over there, so I don't expect anything. A bit like being a guest in someone's house. Actually the same way here, but Bill is a much more benevolent ruler. Sarge uses a word "civility", and I'm thinking it's a good practice. Not always an easy practice to follow, but a good one no less, I think.
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Postby RDSRR » Tue May 08, 2018 2:45 pm
Rufus T. Firefly wrote:Maybe they can't get Henry to advertise and so locked the thread? Their expectations do tend to be AU's off from realistic.
Yet the Smokey Mountain thread, a non-advertiser, continues on
I saw that last night and wondered how long it would stay. The one post with a link was removed. That's OK, they don't appreciate me either
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Postby up148 » Tue May 08, 2018 8:16 pm
Does anyone know who the builder was for the 4-10-2? I thought it was Boo Rim, but I learned Henry dropped them after one of the WM projects. So far, know one knows who the builder was. Lee still has my loco so I can't look at the model or box.
PS" Like your attitude Jon and I think it mirrors many of ours.
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Postby E7 » Tue May 08, 2018 8:49 pm
Butch, Builder of the SP 4-10-2 is LIK Enterprises.
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Postby up148 » Wed May 09, 2018 7:20 am
Thanks Rich! You are a fountain of information.
What else have they built, do you know? This is a fantastic model and IMHO the nicest model Henry imported. Way ahead of its time on correct and special details plus working items like functioning articulated steam lines under the cab.
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Postby E7 » Wed May 09, 2018 8:03 am
Hello Butch,
They have been around a while, but I don't know all that much about them. See:
http://www.railwayclassics.com/builders.htm
Rich
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Postby up148 » Thu May 10, 2018 3:04 pm
Thanks for the link Rich. Looks like a pretty nice factory.
BH
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